Monthly Archives: November 2008

STL: A Month of Darkness

On Friday, November 28th, Geoff Wallace from Maranatha Christian Bookshop, Uxbridge, pointed out that it was now a whole month since STL’s IT systems upgrade turned their operations pear-shaped; and if, as STL tell us, things are improving, then — as John Duncan from Cornerstone, Finchley, asks — the question is, where?
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Messenger

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MessengerMessenger

Paul Kercal 
ISBN 9780232527520 (0232527520) 
Darton, Longman & Todd, 2008 (112pp) 
£7.95

Category: Fiction 
Subcategory: Teenage & Children’s 
Reviewed by: Phil Groom

In a word: book. As in cool; and if you didn’t know that in txt msg parlance book and cool are the same word, then this book is probably not for you (try it sometime: your mobile knows).

But if you are up to speed with such things, if you’re used to carrying on multiple conversations in multiple windows, if you’ve discovered the world of instant messaging, if you’re used to feeling connected and conflicted and disconnected all at once, if you can handle highs and lows and emotional storms — then this a book you won’t want to miss.

It’s about life and love, about trust and betrayal, about asking who you can trust and who you can’t and why and what do you do when you know something your mates don’t and who do you tell? It’s about watching your friendships explode and implode and feeling helpless.

It’s aimed at teenagers. It’s about teenagers. It’s a week in the online life of a group of teenagers, but their online life is part of life, it’s real life, real relationships, real lives falling apart and being patched up. It’s about holding onto faith when it all goes wrong and your life is a mess and your friends think your faith is freaky and who gives a damn? But somehow something stands out and it’s you they turn to and you know what’s right and you know what’s wrong and you don’t know a thing and you’re as lost as they are and it’s tearing you apart —

And it’s about a mysterious stranger who logs on: messenger. Who is messenger? Can messenger be trusted? Ignore messenger. Until — but if I tell you I’ll give the story away. Just buy it; read it; share it on facebook; and give it away. Click.

Phil Groom, November 2008

Phil Groom is this site’s Webmaster and Reviews Editor. He’s a regular contributor to Christian Marketplace magazine and is the manager of London School of Theology Books & Resources. Any opinions expressed here are personal and should not be taken as representing the views of London School of Theology or of any other group or organisation.

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Message in the Sand: Now Out, Now Online

Message in the Sand (front cover)I can think of no more powerful and no more appropriate follow up to my Think Green: Shop Local post than the message of Charmaine Aserappa’s book, Message in the Sand, introduced here by Charmaine last month and, I’m delighted to say, finally published in the Philippines yesterday. I’ll post UK availability details when I have them. 

The story is simple: a young boy, Miguel, sees the sea being destroyed by pollution. But what can one child do? Miguel’s answer is to write a message in the sand… 

For me, it brings to mind the story of Jesus, writing whatever it was he wrote on the ground when the religious leaders of his day, convinced of their own righteousness, tried to force him to condemn a woman who’d been caught out. 

Messages in the sand may be washed away by the tide or by time: but their power transforms lives, and has the potential to transform our world — if we let it.

Read or listen to Miguel’s story. But please don’t stop there: take its message into your heart and let it transform our world.

VAT Attack: Deep Joy

Congratulations to Her Majesty’s Government on giving us a major accounting headache in the run up to Christmas.

Lovely idea in principle: VAT, in my not so humble opinion, is nothing but legalised theft anyway, but that’s another story. Now we face the fun of selling everything that we bought in before Dec 1st at 17.5% VAT at the new rate of 15%; and all those things so carefully priced by the manufacturers with an ex-VAT price to give a nice, rounded inc-VAT price suddenly become silly prices:

  • Bar of chocolate: was £1.30; will be £1.27
  • CD: was £14.99; will be £14.67

Deep joy.

Books, of course, are zero-rated so book prices are unaffected.

Think Green: Shop Local

Today, I’d like to issue a new rallying cry for all bricks & mortar retailers, for all local shopkeepers:

Think Green: Shop Local

There’s nothing new about the idea of local shopping, of course; but if ever there was a time to emphasise our green credentials as local shops, this is it: the run up to Christmas. Millions of individual items individually packaged and individually shipped out by the online giants such as Amazon and Eden, each one eating away away at the environment and increasing our nation’s carbon footprint.

Consider the impact of dozens of small packages sent out to dozens of different addresses all within a short distance of one another compared to one or two consolidated consignments delivered to a single drop off point at a local shop.

Consider the sheer weight of your local postie’s delivery bag!

Consider the tedium of sitting in, waiting for that delivery… of it turning up just as you’ve nipped out… of then having to rearrange delivery or go and fetch it from the sorting office… when all the while, just around the corner, there’s a local shopkeeper whose job it is to wait for deliveries, to deal with them, to let you know it’s arrived and can be collected at your convenience, or who might even drop it in to you on his or her way home!

So next time you’re about to be seduced by the siren call of Amazon’s or Eden’s low prices and carriage-free shipping, listen again to that siren: is it an emergency in the making?

Is the immediate saving you’re making and the convenience of shopping from home really worth the price future generations will have to pay as they wade through the landfill sites and rubbish tips we’re leaving behind? Don’t be fooled: we may be leaving our garbage behind: the future is taking it forward.

Think Green: Shop Local

L is for Lifestyle

Whilst we’re on the subject, congratulations to Ruth Valerio on the recent launch of the ‘L’ is for Lifestyle website to accompany the updated edition of her book of the same title. It’s all about planet-friendly living, full of tips and ideas on how each of us can begin to make a difference. You can buy a copy direct from IVP post-free in the UK if you want to… but I hope that after all I’ve said above you’ll pay a visit to your local Christian bookshop instead, where you can interact with real books, real people.

Not Under Bondage

Not Under BondageNot Under Bondage
Biblical Divorce for Abuse, Adultery and Desertion

Barbara Roberts
ISBN 9780980355345 (0980355346)
Maschil Press, 2008
£11.95

Category: Family and Relationships
Reviewed by: John Wilks

This review – to be published in Evangelical Quarterly, April 2009 – is reproduced here by kind permission of John Wilks, EQ Reviews Editor.

I don’t doubt for one moment that divorce is there as a recognition of our weakness. The Bible’s overall approach to the value and importance of faithfulness within and to marriage is easy to see, and divorce is not something that Christians should ever enter into lightly. Readers of this journal will undoubtedly be aware of approaches to this topic ranging through the debate between the schools of Shammai and Hillel, the texts from Deuteronomy, Jesus and Paul, and their own denomination’s position on the topic. The prominence given to divorce on the restricted grounds of adultery or desertion will no doubt be familiar. This latest offering comes from the context of separation and divorce as an escape from an abusive spouse. Is this also a biblical ground, or only a cultural one?

This book adopts a no nonsense approach to the topic. There is little preamble as the author launches directly into her topic. Each chapter moves rapidly into tightly argued evaluation of the issue to hand. The text is not ‘softened’ with case histories or anecdotes; this is an intense read. That is different from being a heavy read, though; I had no problems with the style.

The urgency of a person with a mission comes across very readily. The author is up front about the fact that she is ‘a survivor of an abusive marriage’ (15). That might make some people wary: how can she be objective? But to dismiss the book on these grounds would be, I suggest, entirely inappropriate. The style is far from inflammatory, nor is it impassioned or unbalanced. After all, we should all be aware that there’s no such thing as a neutral viewpoint; the position of this author is clearly laid out without intruding on the content.

So what about the content? Abuse in its many forms remains a challenging topic for the church to grapple with. The idea that Christians could be so, bluntly put, unchristian is clearly beyond the ability of some to accept. Yet the evidence is increasingly clear to see. ‘No temptation has overtaken us that is not common to everyone’ Paul wisely writes (1 Corinthians 10:13), but that means that we in the church must deal with the worst of sins as well as the ‘easiest’, and that within our own ranks. It also means that church members married to non-Christians may face challenges and problems less common among the churched. So the book starts by explaining the style and patterns of abusers, the ease with which they present a reasonable public face, and the insidious nature of the treatment they hand out to their victims (chapter 1).

If divorce can only be contemplated for adultery and desertion how, then, if at all, can a victim of domestic abuse seek divorce and still be a faithful, Bible believing Christian? At the core of this book is a distinction between ‘treacherous divorce’ and ‘disciplinary divorce’. The former is defined as divorce on inappropriate grounds, the latter as divorce occasioned by unacceptable behaviour by a spouse. Aware of the need to attempt forgiveness or public rebuke, eventually the only possible action is separation and divorce (chapter 2 in particular).

There is extensive analysis of the expected biblical texts on the subject (chapters 3 to 11); the analysis of Malachi 2:16 (chapter 8 and appendix 7) deserves particular attention. But analysis is not restricted to these passages. Roberts also draws on narrative texts that describe marriages in various stages of failure and disarray. So this is not a book that argues purely from experience. The author’s marriage clearly was horrendous; but her argument does not depend on that. The book is a thorough look at the key biblical texts in order to establish the case for divorce from an abusive spouse on biblical grounds. (There are also 35 pages of appendixes giving detailed supporting information for the most technical parts of the analysis.)

A wide audience is suggested for this book, ranging from the ‘victim of marital abuse’ to anyone ‘who seeks to give biblical guidance on divorce and remarriage’ (15). In fact, I’d suggest this book be restricted to the academic end of that spectrum. There’s too much time spent on establishing the grounds for justified divorce following abuse. And that is good and proper, and we need this book. However, just as David Instone-Brewer has produced two books on divorce for two different audiences (Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context, Eerdmans, 2002; Divorce and Remarriage in the Church: Solutions for Pastoral Realities, Paternoster, 2003) so I suggest that a less technical version of this book (and a less relentless one?) needs to be written with the victim in mind, not the scholars. This should be a very valuable addition to the market. But don’t get me wrong: this book deserves widespread attention, with a positive acceptance and affirmation from the academy and the pastorate. This is the book to be on the shelves of every reader of this journal, and we look forward to the one that we can give to any victims that we are called upon to support.

John Wilks, November 2008

Dr John G F Wilks is the Director of Open Learning at London School of Theology, Reviews Editor for Evangelical Quarterly and author of Scripture Union’s Deeper Encounter Study Series.

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STL: Light at the End of the Tunnel?

Update, 22/11/2008: Thanks to Steve Mitchell for permission to reproduce his Powerpoint Presentation, SAP Go Live.

Cynics say that the light you think you can see at the end of the tunnel is the headlamp of an oncoming train. With Christmas fast approaching I guess that’s an easy mistake to make as we wait for our deliveries from STL to come through. But my own experience of walking through a railway tunnel (a few years ago at Birmingham New Street Station, if you must know) tells me that an oncoming train doesn’t necessarily spell disaster: on that particular occasion, the train stopped and the driver gave me a lift in his cab. It’s the only time I’ve ever had the privilege of riding in a train driver’s cab and it’s an experience I’ll never forget.

It was a bit like that at today’s meeting of the Booksellers Association’s Christian Booksellers Group: a sense of not quite despondency, but something fairly close, hung over us. Christmas is coming, our deliveries aren’t and our customers are going elsewhere; then Steve Mitchell (Director of Stores, Wesley Owen) stepped in with a presentation and explanation, an insider’s view of what had happened, what went wrong and how things are panning out. This was the view from the train driver’s cab: in the tunnel with the rest of us, but in a unique position to assess the situation.

Steve’s explanation was frank and straightforward, with no denials or excuses but with honest analysis, humble apologies and the assurance that everyone at STL is doing their utmost to bring things back up to speed. He was unable to offer a date for when that is likely to be but again emphasised the company’s commitment to resuming normal service a soon as possible.

He circulated a letter from Graham Sopp, STL’s Chief Executive (Europe), which has also been distributed to the trade by email:

Open Letter to the Trade

GJS/LR/10657
19 November 2008

I am writing to apologise for the problems caused to your businesses as we have gone live with a new software system at STL Distribution.

The decision to change systems was not taken lightly but our old system, which was 20 years old, was beginning to show distinct signs of age and we feared that it would become unstable. We had already found immense problems in trying to upgrade the system to provide functions required by today’s market.

We originally planned to implement the new system in August. However as the date approached, it became apparent that further testing of the new system was necessary before we could commence training people in how to use the system. We were faced with a choice of going live in late October or waiting until January 2009. Unfortunately, we would have faced immense difficulties in standing down our external project team of consultants for three months while we prepared to go live and then to re-assemble that team in January. After extensive testing of the system we were confident we could start with, at most, minor disruption. So we took the decision to go live in October.

Most of the problems we have encountered over recent weeks are related to business process bottlenecks and are not directly related to software and, in fairness to the system team, could not have been anticipated by the extensive testing we carried out.

We have now deployed our warehouse team in a different way which we are confident will optimise the flow of orders through the warehouse.

At today’s date we are picking orders from 13 November onwards and are working hard to catch up.

I am determined to resume same day despatch for the vast majority of orders as quickly as possible, but I need to be confident we can consistently provide this high level of service. I will write to you again soon when I am convinced we can commit to same day despatch.

I know the last few weeks have been difficult for you as our normal service levels have been disrupted and I apologise once again. We are working round the clock to resolve these issues. I would also like to thank those customers who have contacted us expressing their support and understanding for our team in this difficult time.

Graham Sopp
Chief Executive (Europe)

CBC RIP? Christian Booksellers Convention to Merge with Christian Resources Exhibition

Perhaps I am unduly pessimistic in regarding Bible Society’s acquisition of CBC, the Christian Booksellers Convention, as an effective obituary notice for CBC. Perhaps merging CBC with CRE, the Christian Resources Exhibition, is not so much the end of an era as the beginning of a new one.

Perhaps combining a supposedly trade focused event for retailers with a consumer driven event organised by publishers and suppliers does not sound the death knell for the trade event, but those publishers and suppliers will have their work cut out to convince me that they’re not going to simply use this as an opportunity for direct selling that will effectively sideline retailers’ interests.

CBC/Bible Society Press Release, 12th November 2008

CBC/Bible Society Press Release, 12th November 2008

Following Norman Nibloe’s retirement after CBC 2008, discussions about the possibility of Bible Society taking on the running of CBC for 2009 have been no secret. The actual logistics of the deal, however, were not unveiled until last week, when an announcement was made via a press release issued on Wednesday 12th November 2008: you can download or view it as a pdf here (44kb) or you can read a lightly edited version courtesy of Christian Marketplace magazine. To me, two paragraphs in particular stand out:

It is anticipated that publishers intending to exhibit at the 2009 event will transfer their bookings to the Esher event. The opportunity presented to publishers means that within the ‘trade section’ of the combined event, there will be exposure to the 12,000 expected visitors to CRE in May 2009.

The implications of this are straightforward: the so-called ‘trade section’ will not be a separate trade section at all — it will be wide open to all comers. Indeed, it is difficult to imagine those publishers attending wanting to deal with the extra work that would be involved in running two separate stands, one for the general public, another for their trade customers. It is equally difficult to imagine how space at Sandown Park could be allocated for a trade show and a public exhibition to be run simultaneously: anyone who has attended CRE will know full well how crowded the exhibition already tends to become.

This, quite simply, makes it a non-starter for a retailer focused trade event. We are already faced with online competition from our suppliers: are we also expected to smile sweetly and welcome direct, face-to-face competition as those same suppliers offer our customers deals to walk away with that we will never be able to match because those suppliers will not offer us terms that will make such deals possible?

Next we have some comments from James Catford:

Commenting on the acquisition, he said, ‘This move has been waiting to happen and represents the best possible opportunity for CBC to flourish and grow in the future. Due diligence has taken place throughout the process, and our experienced team will do everything we can to support the Christian trade with the support and encouragement of both retailers and suppliers.’

James, of course, knows the Christian book trade very well; but I suspect his knowledge is rather one-sided, that of a supplier, having worked for both HarperCollins and Hodder before taking on his current role as Bible Society Chief Executive; and that leaves me wondering:

“Due diligence has taken place throughout the process,” he says. Really? Extensive consultation with retailers? That, surely, must be an essential part of due diligence in relation to the future of a Christian retail trade event; and that, as far as I can see from my viewpoint as a retailer and as a member of the Booksellers Association’s Christian Booksellers Group (BA CBG), seems conspicuously absent. In particular, careful consideration of the impact on Christian booksellers in the North of moving their 2009 trade show to the South East? In depth discussions with the organisers of LBF, the London Book Fair, the UK’s leading book trade event, and the Christian publishers who exhibit at LBF year in, year out?

But perhaps this really is “the best possible opportunity for CBC to flourish and grow in the future”; perhaps I have not been paying attention in meetings; perhaps I have missed the relevant reports in the trade press; perhaps I read the wrong blogs: I stand ready to be corrected. Somebody, please: convince me that I’m wrong…

As always, all opinions expressed in this post are my own and, in particular, should not be taken as representing the views of the BA CBG. Please see the disclaimer in the sidebar for further clarification.

Timing isn’t the issue: Mark Hurley

I asked STL whether anyone felt brave enough to address the question of the wisdom of timing a major IT systems upgrade during the critical period approaching Advent and Christmas. Mark Hurley replies:

Phil,

It is not a question of being brave! As you would expect the discussion to Go Live towards the end of October, 6 weeks later than we had planned was a decision taken at the highest level. The thought process supporting this date was:

  1. All the Christmas scale outs were complete to the Crown group and other retailers.
  2. Retailers will have high stock levels and traditionally repeat sales have been low at this time of year.
  3. The end of a month is a relatively quiet time for business

In addition the expertise within IT that we have pulled together over the last 2 years would have been dispersed and would have had to be pulled together at another time, which would have caused issues at a future Go Live date.

In essence one can always find an argument for not adopting change at any time and I don’t believe the issue is about timing. For me the issue is about the difficulties we have experienced in achieving a same day despatch and maximising availability of product. Issues that must be resolved quickly, whatever the time of year to ensure that you and your customers receive the high level of service you associate with STL Distribution.

Mark Hurley

13/11/2008

STL Still Struggling – and there IS a Christian Bookshop in Lincoln!

STL’s battle with technical glitches in their IT systems upgrade is ongoing, unfortunately, with another apologetic memo from Mark Hurley, company head honcho, sent out on Tuesday evening:

Dear customer,

The technical issues we have been experiencing over the weekend unfortunately continue to cause us difficulty although we are working hard to resolve them. The fundamental issue is obtaining enough stock from our bulk locations to meet demand. On paper this may sound a simple issue to resolve but in reality is quite the opposite.

I am conscious that this issue is adding to the delay in processing some but not all orders. Our priority remains to fix this issue until which time we are unable to work at full capacity.

Our inability to process orders as quickly as we would like is causing you inconvenience and whilst I can only continue to apologise be assured our goal is to return to a same day despatch as soon as we can.

The team in Carlisle are grateful for your messages of support and prayers and please be assured that our Warehouse and Customer Services teams are working hard to resolve queries and despatch orders.

Yours faithfully,

Mark Hurley

Commercial Director
STL Distribution UK
(11 November 2008 18:04:44 GMT)

Meanwhile Melanie Carroll of Unicorn Tree Books would like to remind all Christian publishers and their reps that there is a Christian bookshop in Lincoln. Yes, it’s part of a larger enterprise in the Lincoln Central Market, but that does not make it any the less a Christian bookshop, so let’s have less of the snobbery from those who don’t like market halls, please! For any who may be wondering what a bookshop in a market hall looks like, head on over to Melanie’s blog for a photo-tour.

Melanie writes initially in response to Geoff Wallace’s comment on my last post about STL’s difficulties. There’s plenty of food for thought in Melanie’s observations so I’m reproducing them in full, largely unedited except for adding a few extra paragraph breaks and reinstating a couple of asides {in curly brackets} that went astray:

Hmm, Geoff – you must be one of the glitches in the system! You have my sympathies and prayers that your customers are more patient than most!

Must admit that I am only awaiting a box from friday – oh and a credit note for all the current Select Promo stuff I had ordered (well as much of it as seems to be available – has anyone else noticed how much of the select promo stuff seems to be unavailable before the promo even starts? I have a number of upset customers on this front who have wanted a number of items just for me to have to tell them there are no stocks and this was on the first official day of the promo – makes me look bad and in turn Select ~therefore STL~ look bad and I am not sure where that all sits with new legislations etc??) and that was recieved in the day the systems went off line, and was charged at full price for- that took me ringing for 3 days after the original date given for recontacting them.

I found that just being put on auto hold continually was a tad annoying and that was on all the lines including the order line! it wasn’t until I left a particularly pointed voicemail about if you say you will phone people back then please do, that I was finally contacted back by Paul who was lovely and very apologetic and obviously feeling a tad stressed – I did apologise for adding to the stress! however the credit has yet to arrive but rather that than missing orders!

This really would seem to have been a bit of a shambles and my heart does go out to all the staff that must be at tears and breakdown point, it is not a fun place to be at all. I really can emote on this one as back in the SPCK day my shop and team were the beta test site for new epos software for the SPCK shops and that was a disaster initially too!

My prayers for all the staff – and for the systems too! I kind of think it would go something like ‘Lord of Pot’s and Pan’s and things’ – maybe Lord of Wires, Circuits & Code?

Ohh but I might be the one with the longest wait for a rep visit as I still haven’t had one since I went official in February as my rep has had to cancel a few times since the last time I mentioned no rep visiting on this blog. {grins at Tim the Rep who Mel likes and has known for what feels like forever!} To be honest it’s probably not that important as I can order from the Bulletin and other advance catalogues and Bertrams & Gardners give me better discount levels as standard anyway and I have an account with Ingrams in the US, but then I am lucky because I am a general bookshop as well so have these, other new starts probably wouldn’t!

To be fair STL are not the only ones that haven’t visited, I still have yet to be contacted by the CPR rep for my area, despite a few discussions with Mr Mordue who has said that I will be visited a fair few times now since Feb, and STL have the up on this one as at least I get Bulletin from them – though SPCK give me a decent level of support when I order from them, they don’t send any AI’s out to me, but then Bertrams, Gardners and STL do, so at least I shouldn’t miss anything too important! However all the other companies rep’d by CPR, well lets hope they are covered by me spotting them in the various buyers notes!

It puts a new spin on the publishers moaning about sales, buying stats and not being supported really – how do they know and who do they blame when the sales aren’t showing because the orders are all going through the big wholesalers, or books aren’t ordered because the info isn’t passed on to the shops to enable them to make the pre-orders and advance buying decisions??

Again let me point out I have 14 years experience in Christian Bookselling and own an independent general bookshop, so I have knowledge and resources many new starts don’t, if my experiences are the norm or a general trend then it’s something the trade needs to be looking at, and some a lot more than others!!

I think Lincoln maybe is too far from anywhere else on the road calls?
or perhaps after all it is just because, as another Christian Rep (from one of the headline Christian publishers) told me today whilst standing in my shop ~that just happens to be in a market hall!~,
it’s a shame Lincoln hasn’t got a Christian Bookshop anymore!
That did kind of make me wonder why he was there then!

I pointed out what he had said I considered offensive as Lincoln did and does have a Christian Bookshop thank you and duly led him over to the nicely appointed Christian Section that he hadn’t actaully been and looked at until that point and demonstrated that there was a full and comprehensive Christian Bookshop in Lincoln, and although compact in size it is widely stocked and represented and we don’t need much space as we do judicious ordering on a semi-daily basis of what sells and what will sell.

I also pointed out that with most places – though currently some exceptions exist! – offering 24-48 hour delivery this makes small works just fine thanks!

I also pointed out that there has not been a day when there hasn’t been a Christian Bookshop in Lincoln since the late 1940′s. Advance Bookshop (which by the way started out in the same market I now inhabit! I know this to be true and factual as Tim who owned Advance before it’s demise had told me so, and this was confirmed by the Daughter of the people that founded Advance Bookshop as she now uses my shop, as does her daughter, and they always express their delight in us being right where it started!) and the SPCK opened within 18 months of each other, and sadly closed down within 18 months of each other, – Unicorn Tree Books was already carrying a small range of religious books before SPCK/SSG closed down as Tim from Advance had spoken to me before he closed and I was catering to some of his customers whose churchmanship was such as SPCK did not suit them(!) and then later on even before SPCK/SSG closed I was having to stock Communion Wafers and other such items due to strange bannings on purchases by the then leaders of SPCK/SSG, thats why when the staff were so reprehensibly treated I already had the account with STL etc up and running and some stocks in, so there was no gap in Lincoln – its just I beefed up the selection, gave it it’s own entire unit, and didn’t have to worry about competing with my old staff and risking their livelihoods in anyway, indeed one of those staff still works for me Part-time!

So I guess if my being in a Market Hall makes me not real or non-existent (though to some I am a skin horse!) well I can carry on without seeing the reps, after all that leaves me more time for serving the customers!

However I do enjoy seeing the reps and others that do come or phone me very regularly, {mel waves at Mike, Shelley, Ruth, Aude, Kevin, Rebecca and a whole batch of others too!} and if any others want to come they are more than welcome, particularly if they can check the bias and engage the brain as they walk through the door to the Market Hall. Otherwise don’t worry too much, Bertrams and Gardners amongst others ~and soon once again STL we hope, especially for Geoff~ have a good speed of service these days, and some of them even do marginally better discounts than you might expect to get or do get from seeing a rep! That’s worth considering these days.

Ok sorry for hi-jacking Geoff’s real issue! Phil – feel free to cull this rant as needed or if you want, and if not (or even if so!) thanks for giving me somewhere to release the tension and share in the first place.

No apology necessary, Melanie — on the contrary, thank you for joining in the discussions. This is precisely why this blog exists :)